Twenty-Five Random Cosets in the Quarter Turn Metric
Submitted by rokicki on Sun, 03/01/2009 - 13:42.I decided to run the same 25 cosets I ran for the half turn metric. The results are summarized in the table below.
Sequence 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
Thirty QTM Moves Suffice
Submitted by rokicki on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 00:17.that 30 or fewer quarter turns suffice for every Rubik's cube
position. Every coset was shown to have a bound of 25 or less,
except the single coset containing the known distance-26 position.
I also solved every coset exhibiting 4-way, 8-way, and 16-way
symmetry, and each of these also were found to have a bound of
25 or less. Thus, if there is an additional distance-26 or
greater position, it must have symmetry of only 2, 3, or 6, or
no symmetry at all. I believe, based on this, that it is likely
that on other distance-26 positions exist.
Last Layer Optimal Solving
Submitted by Bruce Norskog on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 01:07.I have run all 8020 symmetrically distinct "last layer" positions of Rubik's Cube with the optimal solver of the Cube Explorer program. All these positions could be solved in 16 face turns or less. I also used the number of positions associated with each of these 8020 symmetry class representatives to determine the precise distribution of distances of all 62208 "last layer" (abbreviated LL) positions. Note that this analysis considers solving the last layer with respect to the already solved first two layers.
I note that Helmstetter (see here) has done a similar analysis previously, but his analysis basically only considers solving the last layer pieces relative to themselves, and does not consider what cases may need an additional move to align the last layer properly with the first two layers. My analysis includes all moves needed to solve the last layer with respect to the first two layers. So Helmstetter considered only 1212 cases (15552 "relative" positions reduced by symmetry and antisymmetry), while I considered 8020 cases (62208 "absolute" positions reduced by symmetry).
Relationship of Duplicate Positions and Non-Trivial Identities
Submitted by Jerry Bryan on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 08:36.(Reconstructed from the Drupal archives. Much thanks to Mark for all the work he does in supporting this site.)
This message addresses both the Non-Trivial Identities thread and the Generalizing Dan Hoey's Syllables thread. I thought that I had a good handle on the relationship between Non-Trivial Identities and Duplicate Positions, but I find a confusing discrepancy.
Consider the following four positions.
w = F R' F' R U F' w' = F U' R' F R F' x = U F' L' U L U' x' = U L' U' L F U' y = U' R U R' F' U y' = U' F R U' R' U z = F' U L F' L' F z' = F' L F L' U' F
It is the case that w=x=y=z, what I call a duplicate position. This duplicate position is obviously related to the list of 1440 non-trivial identities from the Non-Trivial Identity Thread. Therefore, I was thinking that (for example) we would find wx', wy', and wz' in the list of 1440 non-trivial identities. But we don't, or at least not exactly. We find wx' and wy', but not wz'. Why not?
Drupal database problem
Submitted by cubex on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 21:00.I'm going to add in the ability for anonymous users to read all the posts and comments but they won't be able to post. A new drupal is in the cards but the problem is transferring all the info from the old drupal to the new is rather difficult.
I'm going to try to add in the lost posts later tonight. Sorry for the trouble everyone, but I'm still learning the idiosyncrasies of drupal. Turning on the menu module was the cause of the trouble and I won't be touching that particular part again :-/
Thirty-One QTM Moves Suffice
Submitted by rokicki on Sun, 01/25/2009 - 14:02.Surprised by the dearth of 26s (none found out of more than 20 trillion positions solved), I decided to take a cue from Radu (and others) and explore the symmetrical positions. In the past few days I've run about 500 cosets with 16-way, 8-way, and 4-way symmetry and have not found any distance-26 positions other than the one that is known.
This is in contrast to the face turn metric, where distance-20 positions pop up much more frequently.
100,000 cubes optimally solved
Submitted by kociemba on Fri, 01/23/2009 - 15:24.14f*: 18 15f*: 197 16f*: 2710 17f*: 26673 18f*: 67099 19f*: 3303No 20f* cube was encountered. According to Toms results this indeed would be very unlikely and for 100000 cubes the probability should be less than 10-6. The 95% confidence interval for the probability of 18f* is about 0.671 ±0.003, for 17f* 0.267 ±0.003 for 19f* 0.033 ±0.001 and for 16f* 0.027 ±0.001.
Tripod Finish - optimal FTM analysis
Submitted by Bruce Norskog on Tue, 01/20/2009 - 15:51.I have used Cube Explorer to solve all "tripod finish" cube configurations. All positions were solved in no more than 15 face turns. I calculated an average distance of about 12.746 face turns per position.
A "tripod finish" configuration has all cubies solved except four corners and three edges that make a configuration resembling a tripod. For example, corners URF, UFL, UBR, and DFR along with edges UF, UR, and FR make up one representative tripod configuration. For the above tripod configuration (or any equivalent one), there are a total of 7776 possible legal arrangements of the cubies. These 7776 arrangements can be reduced by symmetry to 1317 cases.
Thirty-Two QTM Moves Suffice
Submitted by rokicki on Wed, 01/14/2009 - 18:26.with 396 cosets solved, I can announce that every cube position can be
solved in 32 or fewer quarter turns.
I am running phase one to a depth of 19 and letting phase two complete
the coset; each run takes about 12 minutes and approximately 63% of
the runs yield an upper bound of 25; the other 37% yield an upper
bound of 26.
No coset I have run yet has required more than 26 moves to solve, and
the possible distance-26 positions that I have run through an optimal
solver have all yielded distances less than 26, so I do not have a
A Possible Approach to Generalize Dan Hoey's Syllables
Submitted by Jerry Bryan on Sat, 12/20/2008 - 11:39.The thread on this forum entitled "Non Trivial Identities" has had the most responses of any thread to date (39 responses so far). The thread contains a great deal of useful information, including a detailed analysis of non-trivial identities of length 12q. The thread may be found at http://cubezzz.homelinux.org/drupal/?q=node/view/114 (you have to login to see all the responses).
I tend to view the problem of analyzing identities more in terms of duplicate positions than in terms of identities, but you can of course easily transition from one view of the problem to the other. In any case, the problem of finding a formula for the number of moves at each distance from Start is closely tied to the problem of finding duplicate positions and/or non-trivial identities.