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Fast solver for arbitrary target groups
Submitted by mdlazreg on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 09:06.As you know one of the breakthrough of cube computing is Silviu's successful depth calculation of all symmetrical positions. This breakthrough used a two phase algorithm that has the symmetrical positions as its target group. Regular solvers will simply stop once they hit the position they want to solve but Silviu's idea is to never stop until all positions in the target group are hit... This way of solving is very fast and it is what Rokiki has used to calculate the "group that fixes the edges".
My question is can this be applied to arbitrary target groups whose elements share something in common? for example let's say my target group is some conjugacy class of the cube.
My question is can this be applied to arbitrary target groups whose elements share something in common? for example let's say my target group is some conjugacy class of the cube.
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DFS
Submitted by mdlazreg on Sun, 11/01/2009 - 18:22.I modified kociemba's optimal solver so that it calculates the depth of sequences in a Depth-first search manner.
The moves order I used is URFDLBU'R'F'D'L'B'.
Here are the initial results after an hour or so of running :
The moves order I used is URFDLBU'R'F'D'L'B'.
Here are the initial results after an hour or so of running :
./optiqtm
initializing memory.
initializing tables.........................................................
loading pruning table (538 MB) from disk................
U
-1 UU
--2 UUR
---3 UURU
----4 UURUU
-----5 UURUUR
------6 UURUURU
-------7 UURUURUU
--------8 UURUURUUR
---------9 UURUURUURU
----------10 UURUURUURUU
-----------11 UURUURUURUUR
------------12 UURUURUURUURU
-------------13 UURUURUURUURUU
-------------14 UURUURUURUURUUR
---------------15 UURUURUURUURUURU
----------------16 UURUURUURUURUURUU
---------------15 UURUURUURUURUURUR
---------------15 UURUURUURUURUURUF
---------------15 UURUURUURUURUURUD
---------------15 UURUURUURUURUURUL
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULU
----------------16 UURUURUURUURUURULR
----------------16 UURUURUURUURUURULF
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFU
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULFR
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULFF
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULFD
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULFL
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULFB
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBU
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFBF
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFBD
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDU
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDR
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDF
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDD
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDL
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDB
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDU'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDR'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDF'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDL'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBDB'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFBB
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFBU'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'U
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'F
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'D
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'L
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'B
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BU
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BR
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BF
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BD
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BL
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BB
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BU'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BR'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BF'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BD'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'BL'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'U'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'R'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'F'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'D'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'L'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBR'B'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBF'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFBD'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'U
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'R
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'F
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FR
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FF
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FD
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FL
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FB
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'
----------------------22 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'U
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'R
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'F
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'D
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'L
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'B
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'U'
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'R'
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'F'
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'D'
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'L'
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FU'B'
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FR'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FD'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FL'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'FB'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'D
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DU
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DR
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DF
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DD
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DL
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DB
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DU'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DR'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DF'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DL'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'DB'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'B
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'U'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'R'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'F'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'D'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'L'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFBL'B'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFU'
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULFR'
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULFD'
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'U
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'R
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'F
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FU
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FR
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FF
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FD
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FL
---------------------21 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLU
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLR
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLF
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLD
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLL
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLB
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLU'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLR'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLF'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLD'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FLB'
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FB
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FU'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FR'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FD'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FL'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'FB'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'D
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'B
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'U'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'R'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'F'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'D'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'L'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFL'B'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULFB'
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULD
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDU
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULDR
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRU
--------------------20 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUU
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUR
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUF
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUD
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUL
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUB
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUR'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUF'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUD'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUL'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRUB'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDRR
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDRF
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDRD
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDRL
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDRB
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDRU'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDRF'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDRD'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDRL'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDRB'
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDF
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULDD
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULDL
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULDB
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULDU'
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULDR'
-----------------17 UURUURUURUURUURULDF'
-------------------19 UURUURUURUURUURULDF'U
------------------18 UURUURUURUURUURULDF'R
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Commutator elements of the cube
Submitted by mdlazreg on Sat, 10/31/2009 - 18:35.I was wondering if the number of commutator elements of the cube is known?
Commutator elements are of the form ABA'B' where A and B are some sequences.
It seems that the subgroup generated by the commutator elements is half the size of the cube, but is it the case that every element of the commutator subgroup is a commutator element? if not how many are they and how far they are from solved?
Commutator elements are of the form ABA'B' where A and B are some sequences.
It seems that the subgroup generated by the commutator elements is half the size of the cube, but is it the case that every element of the commutator subgroup is a commutator element? if not how many are they and how far they are from solved?
Conjugacy classes of the cube
Submitted by mdlazreg on Sun, 10/18/2009 - 05:03.I was reading the following :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjugacy_class
and wondered if the number of conjugacy classes of the cube is known?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjugacy_class
and wondered if the number of conjugacy classes of the cube is known?
Challenge with three faces
Submitted by brac37 on Tue, 10/06/2009 - 11:33.Ok, I think you all can solve the cube without thinking. So here is a new challenge. First scramble the cube. Next, make the 2x2x2 cube on your 3x3x3 cube. After that, solve the rest of the cube by using three faces only. I can tell you that I know plenty of tricks to solve the cube, but only just enough remain to when you are restricted to three mutually adjacent faces.
Linear formula
Submitted by mdlazreg on Mon, 09/28/2009 - 08:13.Let's assume that there is a linear formula that gives us P(n) using P(k) where 0 <= k <= n-1. P(n) is the number of positions at depth n.
We have then the following formula:
P(n) = sum(R(k)*P(n-k)) for 1 <= k <= n
Calculating R(k) using rokiki's results we deduce :
We have then the following formula:
P(n) = sum(R(k)*P(n-k)) for 1 <= k <= n
Calculating R(k) using rokiki's results we deduce :
1 12 = 12*1 2 114 = 12*12 -30*1 3 1068 = 12*114 -30*12 +60*1 4 10011 = 12*1068 -30*114 +60*12 -105*1
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Algorithm for Counting Identities
Submitted by Jerry Bryan on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 16:45.I've been thinking about writing a program to calculate and count duplicate positions - roughly speaking, those positions that are half way through an identity. What I have in mind will probably be a more time consuming program to write than I would prefer. So I wonder if I could ask Herbert Kociemba and/or mdlazreg to post a little something about the programs they have already written to find identities. It may well be that there is a much simpler approach to calculating duplicate positions than what I have in mind.
What I have in mind is an iterative deepening depth first search beginning at the Start position. If that's all I did, the search would simply count 12n maneuvers for each distance from n, and it would not extract any useful information about how many duplicate positions there are for each n. To solve these problems, I propose to store all the duplicate positions and not to store those positions that are not duplicate. This would be for the quarter turn metric. The program I have in mind would not be able to handle the face turn metric.
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God's algorithm for FTM mod 48, 2. Try
Submitted by kociemba on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 07:32.In FTM the complete knowledge of the distribution of the symmetric subgroups (first table of http://kociemba.org/symmetric2.htm ) lets us not only give the odd and even entries in the distance table but also the distances mod 48, because all unsymmetric position contribute with a multiple of 48. So we get
distance positions mod 48 0 1 1 18 2 3 3 24 4 39 5 12 6 22 7 12 8 40 9 3 10 4 11 20
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Puzzle about the Cube: Coloring the Cayley Graph
Submitted by rokicki on Sat, 09/19/2009 - 14:22.Here's an easy puzzle for Rubik's Cube: What's the chromatic
number of the Cayley graph for the quarter turn metric?
Here's a slightly harder puzzle: What's the chromatic number of the Cayley graph for the half turn metric? If you can't figure it out, can you figure out an upper bound? A lower bound?
This was discussed on speedsolving.com before, but I think it's a good enough puzzle to present here as well.
God's Algorithm out to 15q*
Submitted by rokicki on Sat, 09/19/2009 - 13:56.I've finally managed to compute God's Algorithm out to 15q*. This took longer
than I expected; I had difficulties using multiple cores because occasionally
the memory consumption of the concurrently-calculated cosets would exceed my
physical RAM; even though this was rare, it happened frequently enough to
completely stall the computation. Also, the way memory was allocated and freed
led to pretty intense memory fragmentation.
In any case, it is finally done; here are the results. First we have positions at exactly that depth:
d mod M + inv mod M positions
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