Discussions on the mathematics of the cube

Is there a way to evenly distribute face turns for 12 flip?

Back in Jan 1995 Mike Reid found this process for the 12 flip:

R3 U2 B1 L3 F1 U3 B1 D1 F1 U1 D3 L1 D2 F3 R1 B3 D1 F3 U3 B3 U1 D3 24q

This process has 24 q turns, so I'm wondering could there be a 24 q turn process that evenly distributes the turns so that each side turns 4 q? The idea just seemed elegant to me, 6 faces each turning 4 q turns.


Super Group Cosets of the Centers Subgroup

Continuing my work with the 3x3x3 super group, I have written a coset solver for cosets of the pure center cubie subgroup. This subgroup is made up of the 2048 even parity center cubie configurations composed with the identity edge and corner configurations. The super group may be partitioned into cosets of the pure centers subgroup, g * [CTR] , where g is an element of the super group and [CTR] is the centers subgroup. The centers subgroup is a normal subgroup of the super group, g * [CTR] = [CTR] * g, and the standard cube group is the quotient group of the super group and the centers subgroup.

Finally hitting depth 13 consistently with my 5x5x5 solver

It finally occurred to me why my hash table was sometimes not finding the shortest solutions 100% of the time. When I upgraded my computer to one with 128 GB of RAM, I had enough to load more positions into RAM. The number of hash table entries exceeded 4.2 billion, which is more than 32 bits. I never adjusted all of my access code to use 64-bit indices which were now necessary. All I had to do was change the data type, and, lo and behold, it found a 13-move solution to this arrangement, which previously it was reporting required 14 moves!

A very happy day for me.

Super Cube States at Depth

Super Cube States at Depth

I've been working with the super cube group (the 3x3x3 cube with center cubie orientation). There are two earlier threads here dealing with this group, Lower bounds for the 3x3x3 Super Group and Supergroup knowledge. Neither of these contain any states at depth information. To test my model I have performed a breadth first states at depth enumeration of the group out to depth 10 in the qtm. Can anybody confirm these numbers for me?

Revisiting Korf's 3x3x3 Counts And Identifying Duplicate Positions

A while ago I generated a corners database for the 3x3x3 subset of positions that are applicable to the 5x5x5 cube. I used a move generator that generated 27 moves at depth 1 instead of the commonly reported 18. My move generator also spawned the middle slice turns along with the familiar turns of the outer faces. The total positions reported for the corners database agreed in the end.

Recently I decided to implement the Korf move generator. In my mind, it is really more akin to a 2x2x2 move generator, since every move sequence that is generated can also be played out on a 2x2x2 cube. (Contrast that to some 5x5x5 moves which clearly have no counterpart of smaller cubes.) My move generator started with the solved cube, counted nodes as a function of depth, and placed each unique cube in a hash table, flagging all of the duplicate positions that came next.

5x5x5 Solving Programs: The list is growing

As of June 5, 2016, there are 3 different 5x5x5 solving programs that I know of: one is a robot that solves a physical 5x5x5 cube, one is a java program, and mine is written in C running under Windows 10. I know this forum caters specifically to those interested in "numbers" associated with the various cubes, and I do have some nodes-per-depth data that might be of interest to the group. As for those who might wish to submit test scrambles or other queries to the 5x5x5 programs, my guess is that this is outside of the domain of interest here. So as to not "step on any toes," I have a separate discussion board set up so as to not distract anyone from here. If you'd like more info about that, you can email me at edwardtrice at mail dot com.

New 3x3x3 Corners Data Including Centers

I think almost everyone here is familiar with the Corner Distance data that is used for pruning brute force searches for the 3x3x3 cube. This database features using one cubie as a "reference point" about which to orient the cube, and the relative disposition of the other corners is determined after hunting for that fixed frame of reference.

I decided to create a database that:

A. requires no single point of reference
B. contains all 24 possible rotated states of the cube's corner arrangements
C. measures the distance the corners are from the solved state with respect to the fixed centers

IP address for forum changed to

Hi folks,

My upstream has changed my ip address so now the numeric ip is All the links should work as before once all the dns changes have propagated.

Cube archives changed

To improve security I've removed ftp access from the forum. We'll use http instead of ftp. I've also moved the Thistlethwaite files over so they can be accessed by http as well.

Confirmation of Results for Edges Only Cube, Face Turn Metric, Reduced by Symmetry

Even though it's only confirmation of some rather ancient results, I would like to report that I have succeeded in replicating Tom Rokicki's 2004 results concerning the edges only cube in the face turn metric reduced by symmetry.  My goal was not really to solve that particular problem.  Rather, it was to use that problem as a way to prototype some ideas I have had for improving my previous programs that enumerate cube space.

The base speed of my program is that I am now able to enumerate about 1,000,000 positions per second per processor core when not reducing the problem by symmetry, and I am now able to enumerate about 150,000 symmetry representatives per second per processor core when reducing the problem by symmetry.